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tris mccall

i am continually amazed by how many people i meet through music love and i mean *love* scott miller. not just pop musicians, either. you meet some classically-trained violinist who plays in a chamber group, and she doesn't know all that much about popular music, but get her started about *two steps* or something and she will go on all night. if you ask him he will tell you something about how his writing didn't connect with a mass audience, but all evidence suggests to me that his music took with so many disparate *individuals* who care deeply about records, and that is a much cooler outcome anyway. and i meet plenty of young people -- college-age people -- who don't know thing one about big star but who've discovered game theory. *lolita nation* hung on the wall at cake shop for a reason. it is and will continue to be a guiding light for all these young fuzzed-out pop practitioners.

our '99s are extremely similar. lots of our lists are similar, but ‘99 is uncanny. *69 love songs* didn't make my list, either, even though i love so many of them. there's just way too much garbage on that collection.

if you look at my paper critics poll ballot for '98, it says next to *this is hardcore* "the most dan purcelliest album ever made". i am glad to see i was right!

the sammy album is absolutely indelible. there was some resentment about it when it dropped because luke wood was, at the time, working for geffen. in (quick) retrospect, who cares? it's not luke wood's project anyway.

Jonathan

I greatly enjoyed this conprehensive overview of your musical tastes over the last 19 years. Thanks for posting! My first question: how in the hell did you discover Propeller back in '92 when it was only available as a small-run LP?

It wasn't until fall semester '95 that I stumbled upon the majesty of Pollard, Sprout, and co., and that was via a second-generation mixtape of material from Bee Thousand, Alien Lanes, Propeller, and various concurrent seven inches - which I still contend to be the greatest GbV album of all time. Crooked Rain and No Depression were recent favorite records, so I was primed for an alternative to the Springsteen/Who/Simon classics I had been rocking all through high school.

Echos Myron, Games of Pricks, Weed King, etc. blew my mind and opened me up to a whole new way of thinking about/doing rock music: it's the ideas that count - the melodies and the lyrics above all else - not their execution/fidelity. In this respect, GbV is still fundamentally influential to me as both listener and music-maker even a decade and a half later, though I rarely spin their records these days.

Did you get a chance to see them live? What did you think?

S.M.

Jonathan, I heard *Propeller* in 92 through blind luck. When I was visiting my girlfriend in St. Louis in fall 92, I used to go to this record store called West End Wax (d.). I used to shoot the shit with a clerk there named Dean, who grew up in Vandalia, OH or some other town near Dayton. He had heard GbV play live and had a cassette copy of *Propeller* and *Same Place the Fly Got Smashed*, which was the record before *Propeller*. One day he was playing *Propeller* when I was in the store, and as I walked around shopping, I kept thinking, "Man, this song is really great" about every track. I kept expecting the next song to be non-great, but no dice. Dean was sort of -- not a dick, exactly, but he was excited to have this treasure no one else knew about, and it took a lot of browbeating before he would even tell me who it was and where they came from. Eventually I got him to promise to make me a copy, which promise he thankfully kept. In 93, I missed out on *Vampire on Titus* -- didn't even know it came out -- but was happy when Matador signed them and re-released *Bee Thousand* in the summer of 94.

I got to see GbV live a half-dozen times -- the first time at the Great American Music Hall in SF in spring 95. The next time they came through town, I brought a friend along who was a Deadhead. He was always taking me to unlistenable jam-band shows, so I thought I would do the opposite. He liked Pollard's high kicks and (accurately) noted the similarity between his voice and Peter Gabriel's. But he wasn't much for the band. He spent a lot of time sardonically comparing "the rhythm guitar player" with "the other rhythm guitar player."

I don't listen to them much these days, either. I liked it when Pollard put out the stage-patter record called *Relaxation of the Asshole*. I'm sure he realizes that title is a metaphor for the fact he puts out 17 records every year and has no quality-control mechanism. But boy can he write a melody, and his lyrics are way better than is generally believed.

Jonathan

Quite an unlikely story. You are a lucky rocker for sure.

I first caught GbV on the "Under the Bushes" tour, the last hurrah for the classic lineup: Toby, Mitch Mitchell, and Kevin Fennel making like Irving Plaza was Bob's basement or wherever they used to get loaded and record sheer brilliance to 4-track. I was blown away by the setlist - Wished I Was a Giant, Smothered in Hugs, Lethargy for christsakes! - and the performance, highlighted by Bob's high kicks and droll song intros: "This is Striped White Jets. 1-2-3-4..."

However, every time I saw the band since that initial salvo, I was more than a little disappointed. Although Bob shat out plenty of good songs post-'96, I could never get fully behind the Doug Gillard era. While the subsequent versions of the band were probably tighter, they just didn't move me like the Under Bushes lineup.

S.M.

Dean was a handy guy to know. A year or so later, right after *Exile in Guyville* came out, he also dubbed a copy of the *Girlysound* tape for me. I'm sure he's still out there somewhere, listening to the leak of the new Dirty Projectors and Grizzly Bear records.

I agree with you that the original group of alcoholic Dayton homies was the best GbV, at least in the live setting. They were an actual band. Then again, they also had better songs to work with. After *Under the Bushes* the really great songs were exceptions, and after *Isolation Drills* the exceptions became very exceptional.

voxpoptart

Random notes from throughout your piece, numbered for no good reason:

1) I prefer Warehouse to Zen Arcade, but this would be more impressive if I really cared about Husker Du. I mean, they're pretty good, but I'd trade their entire discography for the one song by Bicycle with the line "Everyone in town loves Husker Du/ maybe I'm afraid what it does to you". (You'd love Bicycle at least as much as I do, I think: one self-titled album, 1999.)

2) I love *Lolita Nation* too, but it's about my 5th-favorite Scott album. (We differ strongly on the merits of *Attractive Nuisance*, and *Days for Days* was the first album for which I overcame years of crippling shyness to walk around singing on the streets of Boston.)

3) You and glenn mcdonald write about *Surfer Rosa* almost identically. It makes me jealous, wishing I'd heard it before the grunge-punk revolution it did so much to inspire; it just doesn't sound like anything special to me, though I enjoy it.

4) Bon Jovi's *New Jersey*, by far their best album, is high on my Best of '88 list for exactly the reasons with which you defend Kix. I'll check Kix out.

5) "When I Win the Lottery" may indeed be my own choice of best song of 1989. ("Sadie" wouldn't be my pick for 2004, but it's another awesome choice.)

6) I love *Exile in Guyville*'s weirdness too. I think it was so weird that her fans miss how weird Ms. Phair has remained. *Whip-Smart* is bizarre, dang it, trailing off in unexpected chords, directions, and production choices all over the place, some of which work.

7) I have at least two friends who love *Dots and Loops* even more than you seem to.

8) Also, my friends are more likely to love than mock the boombox scene in _Say Anything_. The majority of my friends are female, which may explain that. I would have found the entire movie about 20 times as romantic and affecting if there'd been the slightest evidence that the superbrain Skye character actually ever thought about anything, particularly in Cusack's presence, particularly if that's why Cusack loved her.

9) I downloaded some Drive Like Jehu, Marah, and Hunter songs from Emusic while reading this. Liking them on first impression.

10) McLusky, Tori, and Gomez high on your 2002 list is the closest we come to think-alike agreement. It's close.

11) While preferring *Electric Version* to *Mass Romantic* is indubitably correct, I don't think it fits well with your claim that you like your music "relenting". It and Bryan Scary's *Flight of the Knife* are the two greatest pop albums to ever take half-a-dozen listens just to stop overwhelming and exhausting me.

12) Is the magic number, squared, plus itself.

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